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A Tower in Toronto and the Story of Kleptocracy

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 3 September 2018

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Jacob Weisberg talks to Tom Burgis of the Financial Times about his story "Tower of Secrets: The Russian Money Behind a Donald Trump Skyscraper." The two discuss a deal in Toronto, why western real estate is sought after to clean money, and what more this says about the rise of kleptocracy around the world. Alex Shnaider has responded to Tom's story and can be read here in full: "An Article Littered With 'Ifs' and 'Possibilities.'" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:45.8

He is playing a very serious hand here. Financial dealings of these guys, Trump,

1:53.9

Cohen, Kushner. They're all on Mueller's table. Did Trump know all of this and not care?

1:59.9

Or did he know none of it because he's incompetent? In other words, is Trump smart enough to be evil?

2:06.6

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