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A Tortured Immigration Debate

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Cato, Peace, Policy, Politics, Markets, Defense, Government, News, News Commentary, 424708, Immigration, Libertarian

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🗓️ 21 December 2015

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

The current immigration debate has turned nativist. The new, uglier debate centers on barring immigration, not expanding it. Alex Nowrasteh and Bryan Caplan comment.

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0:00.0

This is the Cato Daily Podcast for Monday, December 21st, 2015. I'm Caleb Brown.

0:06.0

The debate over immigration has taken a decidedly negative term from debating how many immigrants

0:11.6

to allow into the country and how many more visas the

0:14.6

U.S. should grant.

0:16.4

The debate now centers on banning for a time immigration altogether.

0:20.6

Cato's Alex Narasta and George Mason University's Brian Kaplan sat down with me to discuss the troubling new debate last week.

0:28.0

What do you think is the worst proposal that has received any traction that's been put out there so far.

0:34.0

Alex would know a lot better than me.

0:36.0

I think probably the worst proposal is a total moratorium on all immigration

0:40.0

just to make sure that there's no potential security threat at all going forward.

0:45.0

And leaving aside the problems that that would pose logistically for employers in the United States, what are the estimates for economic costs of such a proposal?

0:57.0

So I took a look at a paper written by Ben Powell at Texas Tech University,

1:01.0

he tries to estimate sort of the annual cost of a total moratorium

1:04.5

on immigration and he comes to somewhere around $200 billion annually, annually to the U.S. economy.

1:10.7

So looking at that going forward, the number of terrorists who have committed a

1:14.3

tax since 9-11 about 73% of them have been immigrants. So like assuming that

1:19.2

70 and the terrorist tax per year there's about three casualties per year and

1:25.0

take a look at the cost estimate it's about a hundred million dollars for all of

1:28.8

those attacks per year at like the uppermost bound so an immigration moratorium at best would reduce these costs by

1:35.8

73 million dollars per year at a cost of 200 billion dollars a year to the economy

1:41.2

under very generous assumptions.

1:43.6

So there's really just no way that this makes sense

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