Today I have a very very special guest

someone who I've been a fan of for

I don't know six six, seven years.

Someone who actually shifted my music taste

in a big way, single-handedly.

Today we have Mack-de-Marco. When I was like 15 I found his music on Vine. Who remembers Vine? I found his music on Vine.

There was like this artsy edit of, I don't know, like an anime movie

and there was a song in the background. I was like, wait, what is that?

And I looked in the comments and it was like freaking out the neighborhood by Mac DeMarco and I was

like, who's Mac de Marco Marco? And I was obsessed. And I've been such a big fan of him ever since. So getting

to speak with him today is, honestly I'm going to ship myself, but I'm so excited.

I think what's so special about Max Music is the way it always sounds like him.

When you hear a Mac-de-Marco song, you're like,

that's a Mac-to-marko song.

Whether it's kind of funky or it's more deep and sentimental or it's just an instrumental

that rhymed it always feels like him

he really just has

his own sort of sound. His last two albums have been so intriguing to me because they're super stripped down and they're super casual in a lot of ways.

His last album having almost 200 songs and being like nine

hours long. He's going the complete opposite direction of the industry.

And I must know more.

So I present to you

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