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A Taftian Antidote to Trumpian Excesses

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4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2018

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

 Amicus’ summer of exploring great legal writing continues this week with Jeff Rosen, whose biography of William Howard Taft reveals a president who was scrupulous in observing constitutional boundaries, and much happier on the bench than in the White House.

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0:00.0

Although he was obviously a mixed success as a politician,

0:13.1

he's one of the pristine and shining examples in American history

0:16.2

of a president who approaches the office like a judge

0:19.0

and measures all of his actions against the Constitution.

0:26.1

Hi, and welcome back to Amicus Slate's podcast about the courts and the law and the rule of law.

0:32.4

I'm Dahlia Lithwick, and I cover many, if not most of those things for Slate.com.

0:38.0

And while the Supreme Court is on break this summer and the political machinery around Justice Kennedy's successor grind into overdrive,

0:47.9

I thought we'd zoom out for a week or two and explore some of my favorite writing by some of the very best thinkers about the law and the

0:54.5

history of the law and the courts. So I want you to think of the next couple of weeks as

0:58.6

kind of an amicus summer book club because the obvious choice for beach reading is a book like

1:04.7

this, a scorching biography of William Howard Taft. No, I'm not joking. Scorching may not be the word, but

1:12.8

fascinating and surprising really are applicable here. Jeff Rosen is the author of five books,

1:18.6

and his new biography of Taft is part of the American President's series. We had Jeff on last

1:24.9

year to discuss his biography of Justice Brandeis. But in addition to being an

1:29.3

amazing writer of judicial biography, Jeff Rosen is president and CEO of the National Constitution

1:35.3

Center. He teaches law at George Washington University. He's a contributing editor at the Atlantic

1:41.0

and most important for us. He is the host of Amicus's sister podcast,

1:47.0

We the People, which makes him kind of my cousin. So welcome back to Amicus Jeffrey Rosen.

1:53.3

Thank you. It is wonderful to be back and to talk to your great Amicus listeners.

1:58.4

So Jeff, I have to just confess right off the bat that William Howard Taft is an improbable choice for someone to dig deep in. Most of us don't know anything about him. I think we all know he was too big for his bathtubs. He was girthy, I think is the locution that I'm going to put forward.

2:19.7

Very reluctant politician.

2:26.8

Not somebody who leaps to mind as a singularly important president.

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