Hi there, everyone. It's four o'clock in New York. It is rare, but as of this very afternoon,

we are officially an uncharted territory because never before have the American people at large

observe such pervasive and disruptive and jagged, such gaping new fault lines,

rupturing and exploding in spectacular fashion along the MAGA movement's powerful landmass. Of course, for the past few days, supporters

of Donald Trump have had their spears trained on one another in the aftermath of the Trump

administration's conclusion that there is, quote, no, they're there on the so-called

Jeffrey Epstein client list. But it wasn't until today that Donald Trump entered the chat,

and Trump himself stabbed at some of his own supporters, calling them, quote, weaklings,

those voters who continue to ask for answers around the Epstein-related conspiracy theories.

Donald Trump even suggested that his supporters, the MAGA faithful, are, quote, doing the Democrats' work for some reason,

and asserted he didn't want their support anymore anyway.

It is a supreme political betrayal for those voters who not only voted for and supported Donald Trump, but stuck with him.

Through grabbing women in the you know where on the Access Hollywood tape, through a deadly insurrection, through two impeachments, all in the name of proving and

punishing such conspiracy theories like the Epstein files. People for whom targeting allegedly

corrupt elites wasn't just a campaign promise along with, I don't know, whatever else people

were into, but a worldview, a platform, consider the

political aftershocks making their way through right-wing media right now. Big online personalities

like Megan Kelly insisting she will not just let it go, even when talking to other like-minded

right-wing personalities. This is me not having drawn a conclusion. I don't know what the truth is. I've been reporting in a way, I mean, I see you've taken aside that you've chosen to believe the story that's being offered, and that's fine. A lot of people have. I'm not there yet. I don't actively say that there's a pedophile ring. I don't say any of that. I'm just following

the facts. And we're not at the place where I can draw that conclusion.

Well, no, I can draw the conclusion. The evidence that I'm seeing and the people who are speaking about

it lead me toward this particular conclusion. And then there's Joe Rogan. Now, Joe Rogan is different.

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