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A Spy in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard

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Education, News, History

4.41.7K Ratings

🗓️ 21 July 2010

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

A young student in the US when the Iranian Revolution happened in 1979, Reza Kahlili rejoiced and hurried back to his native country, but he soon found that "every promise that Khomeini had made was vividly a lie." In the early 1980s, he made contact with the CIA, agreeing to risk his life and his family's wellbeing as a spy within Iran. He discusses with Peter how he burrowed inside the regime's elite Revolutionary Guard to report what he found, balancing his constant fear against his Persian patriotism.

Transcript

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0:07.0

Hello. Hello and welcome to Spycast from the Secret Files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

0:21.0

I'm Peter Ernest, the Executive Director of the Museum. I served for some

0:26.0

36 years in the Central Intelligence Agency, largely as what is called an operations officer

0:31.6

or a case officer.

0:33.1

Every month will be bringing you interesting talks

0:35.9

with visitors, with authors, with others

0:37.5

who have something to do with the world of intelligence

0:41.4

and espionage. world of Intelligence and Espionage.

0:45.1

Our guest today is Rezicalili.

0:48.1

Rezicalili is not his real name.

0:50.8

Rezicalili is an Iranian who was worked under cover for the CIA for several years in the

0:59.4

80s and 90s. He in fact grew up in Tehran, came to this country, attended the University of

1:06.0

Southern California, and when the revolution occurred of 1979 he went back

1:11.8

he felt as he said in his own words, it was a revolution, a Persian

1:18.3

revolution and that there would be a renewal in his country. On returning, he was very disillusioned and in that

1:27.0

disillusionment turned among other things to the CIA and offered to work as an agent inside Tehran and he became a member of the

1:38.0

Revolutionary Guard. That was an extraordinary, courageous, and risky thing to do.

1:45.0

How, what gave you the courage to take that step

1:49.7

and to believe that you could get away with it

1:51.7

in the face of such a ruthless

1:53.9

administration? Well first of all I want to thank you it's a pleasure and an honor

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