And the the Oh, Hello my fellow historians welcome to a special episode a song of of Ice and Fire and Dune, with our good friend Alt Shift X.

This episode was originally recorded over on his channel several months ago, but we put up a nice cleaned-up

edited version for y'all here on the podcast feed because

a lot of y'all probably missed it. Or perhaps it's time for a re-listen. Enjoy!

Today we're going to talk about a song of Ice and Fire, the Game of Thrones books in comparison to Dune.

There's a lot of interesting similarities.

This stream was Aziz's idea.

I've got a special guest today,

Aziz from History of Westeros.

Thanks for coming on Aziz.

Hey, thanks for having me.

It's so much fun to talk about parallels.

This is one of the things we do over on my channel

usually it's historical parallels to a song of ice and fire or parallels within a song

of ice and fire within the history of itself yeah it's funny because like Dune and Game Thrones are both so famous and popular,

but I think a lot of people don't immediately see the similarities between them

because they are different in a lot of ways like

Dune is the science fiction series and it's got this sort of dense philosophical tone

to it whereas you know game of Thrones is the medieval fantasy, and so there are these superficial differences to it.

But I think the more you look, you see how both theories play with the same tropes and the same

archetypes in really interesting ways so I'm excited to talk about all these

similarities yeah it's going to be very deconstructive, very meta, and we're going to have to constantly ask ourselves,

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