Welcome to Karen Hunter is awesome.

I'm Karen Hunter and I'm sitting here once again with Tremel McKenzie, who just quit 10 minutes ago.

Because I was harassing her to retell this story and you didn't want to

or all right hey welcome you were just harassing me that that's why I was quitting um yeah it was

all right full disclosure I was trying to get you to be a part of financially speaking on the women's

empowerment network. Yes. And you tried to tape something and turned into the WB Frog, which I don't

understand. Because you were giving me, you were telling me this amazing story. And then when we

turned on the mic, it was like, no, but that that's not it it's that we were talking earlier and

this always happened so i'm telling you something right before the show and and you take some of it

and you leave some of it and that's just how it is but then you'll come back like eight hours later

and you'll say what were you telling me and i like, what? I don't even remember the nuances

of the story. You know, like the moment has passed. That's what happens. And that's my opinion.

Okay. Well, my opinion is you freeze up. But we'll work through that. We'll work through that.

Because, you know, the stories you tell, I think, are so super important. They absolutely inspire and motivate me, but they also,

you know, some of these stories have so many layers, like the story you were telling me right

before I hit record. So you were telling me how you were in the gym earlier and something happened.

Yeah, and nothing happened. Nothing happened to me per se. Okay. But it was funny how my gym experience, it kind of just took a left turn.

So it's Saturday.

I have this new gym routine and I, you know, try to get it in it about maybe twice a week at this time.

I got to, I left my house at like, no, I arrived at the gym at 5.50. And so that's a great time because everything is empty. And when you get to the gym at that time, you kind of see the same people. Whatever your time is at the gym, you're going to have your people. And so for me, I see the same people. And so one of those people that I happen to see is Joe. And we've never said a lot

to each other, but we always end up in the same place at the same time. It's just our rhythm.

And so I get downstairs today and like clockwork, Joe is getting out of the pool and I'm walking

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