You know, whether it was like driving around listening to Metallica and just like getting

revved up to go.

You listened to Metallica?

I mean, I grew up in Ohio, Slayer, Metallica, all of that.

Oh, my God, this changed my whole major of me.

It was like this nice little, you know, Midwestern absolute nonsense.

You're, you're heavy metal.

Oh, all of it, you know.

I did like Def Leopard.

Oh, well, yeah, sure. Just Pyromania, just the one album. That was great. Yep.

Yeah, I mean, you know, that was fun. You realize it's a whole generation that we're just

tuned out of what we're talking about now. My next guest and I are both Gen X. We're both

from a generation when we made mixtapes. Manually. On tape.

We'd spend days crafting our playlists.

You needed to have a vision.

You needed to know who you were making the mixtape for.

You needed to have something to say.

They took so much time and energy.

To make one was actually an act of love.

Which is a perfect segue to introduce my guest,

because a great mixtape is actually a perfect metaphor for true entrepreneurship.

Jenny Britton started Jenny's ice cream after she dropped out of art school at 22 years old.

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