I think that we so easily get persuaded into climbing ladders that aren't of our own choosing.

And the most obvious one is after high school, you go to college, you get the degree, you get the job, degree you get the job after you get the

job you get the promotion you have to get the promotion you get the house with the

picket fence and the 2.7 kids to hopefully be able to retire when you're

65 to then move to Florida and play golf four times a week.

Hello and welcome to another episode of Chasing Excellence.

My name is Patrick Cummings here with a quick introduction this

week every week on the show Ben and I dedicate some time to exploring how we can

live a life of better health and increased fulfillment. We answer your questions about the five factors of health,

dive deep on living a life of excellence and explore the strategies and frameworks to help us chase

what truly matters. Thank you as always for joining us. This week, as I I mentioned we've got something a little bit different

We've got a conversation that Ben had recently with the fine folks at the food we need to talk

Podcast juna and dr Phillips talk with Ben about the power of mindset, how we can unlock our potential

for health and success.

The lessons we can learn from elite athletes and how they can be applied to our everyday lives

and the five foundational behaviors that contribute

to optimal health and performance.

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