So the next one, I have four kids. Okay, birth rate right now is 1.58.

Everybody I meet, I tell them have a lot of kids, okay?

What can we do to get the youth to start thinking about having a family, having kids,

or maybe the crisis is so massive that it's going to take decades to fix but how would you

address it it's going to take a generation to fix we for people who are interested we just published

what we call a landmark paper long long social science study on family policy and people know the

diagnosis well they're cultural economic religious social factors that go into this. But what we're

saying in this, bottom line is, while those need to change, and I'll come back to a couple of them

that I think in particular need to change, there may also be a role for federal and state policy.

And so we have proposed, even as a conservative organization, that you invert some of the

existing policies in federal law that disincentivize marriage and probably

disincentivize the birth rate and actually incentivize young Americans before the age of 30 to get married and to have children.

We're saying, to be clear though, that's downstream from some bigger factors, what's going on culturally and economically. And just like you say to young people you encounter, get married, have a lot of children, our institutions, which are upstream of the institution of the federal government, have to do a better job of cultivating among Americans the desire to be married and to have children, our religious institutions,

our other cultural institutions. And so these things have to have to occur in tandem. The good news is,

while the data is admittedly mixed in some cases, in some countries that have done this,

particularly Hungary and Israel, there have been modest improvements in the marriage and birth

rates. And so we at Heritage are sober about the timeline we think that it will take to reverse

this, a generation, 20 or 25 years, but we believe we're not yet at the point of no return,

although probably there are some societies in the West that are.

Okay.

While we're speaking, I just wrote this down.

And I appreciate that.

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