A Psychopath Scammed Us
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.6 • 1.2K Ratings
🗓️ 28 July 2025
⏱️ 127 minutes
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Summary
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00:00 Introducing Chris Huber
01:20 Befriending Sam
27:44 Was Sam charming?
30:58 Sam's cancer
42:44 The cult of Sam
52:19 When did it take a turn?
1:05:35 Unraveling the lies
1:23:11 The aftermath
1:31:03 Sam's M.O.
1:41:45 What could have gone differently?
2:02:48 How does it feel to share the story?
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July 28, 2025
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Deserved listeners. We have a really special guest with us on the podcast. My childhood friend |
| 0:06.1 | who I met in the fifth grade, I was playing trumpet and he was playing drums. And we have been |
| 0:14.7 | very, very close friends ever since. What year would that have been like 1981 or something |
| 0:20.4 | maybe? |
| 0:21.6 | And we were talking recently about an experience many years ago about how we met a psychopath, |
| 0:32.6 | a con artist, a classic psychopath, someone with antisocial personality disorder. |
| 0:38.8 | This was before I was a therapist. |
| 0:40.9 | I didn't know anything about this sort of thing. |
| 0:47.9 | And I thought that I would have my good friend, Chris Huber, on the show, to talk about it because the psychopathic con artist was much more involved in Chris's life than in my life. I kind of saw it from afar, |
| 0:58.3 | but I was definitely near ground zero. So welcome to the podcast, Christopher Huber. Thank you. Good to be |
| 1:05.3 | here. This is a treat. Yeah. So your kids listen to the podcast, your daughter in particular, right? |
| 1:11.1 | Yeah. Yeah. For many years. |
| 1:12.6 | They're both fans, like many year fans. Maybe five, six, seven years running now. |
| 1:18.0 | Yeah. So shout out to your kids. So yeah, let's start from the beginning, Mr. Huber. |
| 1:26.0 | You met this. |
| 1:29.3 | Are we going to say the name of the guy? |
| 1:33.3 | I mean, the first name? |
| 1:35.6 | Sam. |
| 1:36.3 | Sam. |
| 1:36.9 | Yeah. |
| 1:37.3 | Okay. |
| 1:38.1 | We'll just call him Sam. |
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