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What It's Like To Be... with Dan Heath

A PR Crisis Manager

What It's Like To Be... with Dan Heath

Dan Heath

Storytelling, Business, Curiosity, Society & Culture, Jobs, Careers, Human Interest

4.9820 Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Taking late-night phone calls from panicked clients, dueling with company lawyers over what to disclose, and rushing to preempt unfavorable stories with Chris Thomas, a PR crisis manager. What was it like to manage the media frenzy surrounding the Elizabeth Smart case? And what's the worst possible answer to a journalist's question? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes from our back ca...

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0:00.0

A while back, a manager at a franchise restaurant fired an employee.

0:04.8

Happens all the time, right?

0:06.4

But this employee was a non-English speaker, and the manager fired them in a really demeaning way,

0:13.2

and there was a video of it.

0:15.6

The video surfaced online.

0:17.8

So the video was posted at 7 o'clock the night before.

0:26.6

That's Chris Thomas. He works in PR crisis management. And by 9 o'clock the next morning, there were 800,000 views of the video.

0:31.6

There were boycotts planned in 10 cities, and there were even protests that were being organized. Chris gets called when a company,

0:39.7

like this one, has a PR crisis, and they're not sure how to handle it. I got the call at 9 o'clock,

0:45.6

so I'm a little behind on this, and they also had just issued a statement, which they shared with us,

0:51.3

completely defending the manager. Chris says this happens a lot.

0:55.0

Companies get defensive and sometimes they get bogged down and who's right.

1:00.0

And a lot of times I have to convince the C-Suite that it's not who's right.

1:05.0

It's what's best. What's going to be best for your business?

1:08.0

What's going to be best for your employees? This is how they're perceiving it.

1:11.8

Chris said he had a tough conversation with the company's leadership.

1:15.1

You've done the wrong thing.

1:16.5

You've said the wrong thing.

1:17.9

It's impossible to get the genie back in the bottle.

1:20.2

So you've got to acknowledge that, yeah, our initial response was wrong.

1:24.0

And we've since then taken action.

1:26.4

The company took Chris's advice.

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