Hey there everyone, it is 4 o'clock in New York. I'm Aiman Mahidini in today for Nicole

Wallace. It is not the crime. It is the cover-up. A real world lesson in that age-old expression

today for Donald Trump and by extension, his aides caught up in the classified documents

indictment. Today, Carlos Deliviera, the Mar-a-Lago property manager, newly charged in special

counsel Jackson's documents case, was in court. It was his first public appearance since

being named in last week's superseding indictment, accused of telling another Mar-a-Lago employee

the boss wanted surveillance footage deleted. Footage sought by the Department of Justice

at the time. He's also accused of lying to investigators. Again, it is not the crime folks,

it is the cover-up. But there is a delay. Deliviera hasn't secured local counsel to represent

him in Florida, so the judge asked him to return later, next Thursday, to go about the

arrangement. Now, if all of this sounds familiar, that's because the other Trump aide

indicted in the classified documents case, the valet, Wal-Tonata, twice had his not guilty

plea postponed for the very same reason. And perhaps you're saying to yourself, what a stroke

of bad fortune. Both indicted Trump associates somehow unable to find a Florida lawyer. There

by delaying their trials with the 2024 election fast approaching. Go figure. Now this afternoon

there are also significant concerns surrounding Deliviera's legal fees, specifically who

is going to pay for them. It's reportedly a Trump pack, and that raises a number of major

questions that we are going to address throughout the hour. But first, consider how this particular

moment in time reflects a pattern between the early 2000s and today Carlos Deliviera went

from parking cars and fixing stuff at Mar-a-Lago for around $10,000 a year to filing for bankruptcy

before rising to the position of property manager. And the New York Times takes it from

there. The path Deliviera followed is as familiar in the world of Trump, who often views

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