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🗓️ 25 May 2023
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When a New York doctor tweeted recently about “payday loans” for doctors from a branch of UnitedHealth Group — which operates the giant insurance company UnitedHealthcare — we were intrigued.
Especially when we saw that the loan product — a “cash flow solution” for health care providers — was real.
The doctor’s tweet essentially accused UHG’s insurance arm of causing cash flow problems for providers in the first place, by denying claims and delaying payments — which echoes complaints we’ve heard over the years, and which the original tweet called “genius” — as in Evil Genius. When the boss who’s paying you late offers to front you money, at interest, to tide you over, it does sound like… a conflict of interest.
It turns out, because UnitedHealth Group is such a big, complex enterprise, it’s not quite that simple.
But UnitedHealth Group’s size and complexity turns out to be the story. The company has grown into a “behemoth,” running the country’s biggest insurance company, and becoming the biggest employer of doctors, while also running big parts of the business-side back end for big chunks of the health care ecosystem.
As one expert told us, “There's very little good news about what happens when these organizations. or these sectors of health care get bigger.” Costs and prices tend to go up, without a bump in quality.
And regulators, we learned, have struggled to keep up.
It’s a wild ride with a sobering conclusion — and very much worth taking.
As the expert who labeled United a behemoth wrote: “United has grown to its present immense scale largely without public knowledge.” Now we know. And knowledge is the beginning of power.
BONUS TIP: This story reminded us of themes and insights from novelist, journalist, and activist Cory Doctorow, especially his recent book Chokepoint Capitalism and his recent essays about the “enshittification” of online life.
We also like Cory’s novels a lot, and have learned a ton from them. They’re often called science fiction, but the tech is usually present-day, or about a month into the future. His latest, Red Team Blues, is a smart, fun techno-thriller.
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0:00.0 | Hey there. Last month, I saw a wild tweet from a doctor in New York, and lots of other people |
0:05.2 | saw it do. It made the rounds. It said that Optum, a subsidiary of United Health Group, |
0:10.5 | better known for running the big insurance company United Healthcare, quote, |
0:15.1 | is now running a payday loan business targeting medical practices." This doctor wrote that |
0:21.5 | United denies and delays payments to docs. In other words, hurting their cash flow, |
0:27.1 | making them targets for a payday loan business. And one thing checked out right away, |
0:32.0 | Optum is offering loans to doctors and other providers at interest, and the pitch is cash flow. |
0:38.0 | Optum pay advance is filled for healthcare organizations like yours. |
0:43.3 | We've developed a customized cash flow solution that gives easy and fast access to funds. |
0:50.0 | The website gives an example where a $100 loan means $65 to you up front, |
0:55.3 | and then keeping $35. The doc who tweeted it called the idea, |
0:59.6 | genius exclamation point. You know, genius like evil genius. I mean, it sounded like my boss |
1:05.5 | telling me, hey Dan, payday's friday, and I got some bad news and some good news. The bad news is |
1:11.6 | I'm not going to pay your friday. I'm going to do a deep dive on your time sheet. I may ask you |
1:15.9 | for a bunch of supporting paperwork. Honestly, I don't know how long it'll take or how much |
1:20.8 | I'm actually going to pay you. So, you know, that's the bad news. The good news is I confront you |
1:26.1 | some of the money. I'll just take it out of any future paychecks plus a little something for my |
1:29.9 | trouble. See, 35%. I talked with the doctor who posted the tweet, Alex Steinslager, |
1:36.6 | a urologist in New York. So that's an incredible business plan. You have to be really creative |
1:43.9 | to come up with that business idea. You also have to have steel bowls to actually propose that |
1:52.3 | publicly. I mean, you have to not have any moral compass at all. Now, having looked into it, |
1:59.6 | I got to say, it may not be exactly that simple. United Health Group operates a huge web of |
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