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Emergence Magazine Podcast

A Path Older Than Memory – A Conversation with Paul Salopek

Emergence Magazine Podcast

Emergence Magazine

Science, Society & Culture, Natural Sciences, Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.7627 Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2024

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

In this conversation, Emmanuel Vaughan-Lee speaks with Pulitzer Prize–winning journalist Paul Salopek, who is a decade into a remarkable journey retracing, on foot, the migration pathway taken by the first humans out of Africa tens of thousands of years ago. Speaking to us from the Liaoning province in northeastern China, Paul shares how moving at three miles per hour has deepened his personal relationship to time. As he becomes attuned to what he terms "sacramental time," the boundaries between the physical and metaphysical begin to blur into an expansive experience of timelessness. Read the transcript. Sign up for our newsletter to hear more stories as they are released each week. Photo by Paul Salopek, National Geophraphic. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:01.0

Welcome to Emergence Magazine's podcast.

0:03.0

I'm Emanuel Vaughn Lee, executive editor of Emergence Magazine,

0:08.0

located on the unseated ancestral lands of the Coast Meawak people of present-day, Mering County.

0:15.0

Each week we feature a new interview, narrated essay, or story, exploring the threads connecting

0:23.0

ecology, culture, and spirituality.

0:29.6

Machines and computers have transformed how we absorb meaning from our realities.

0:35.6

Speeding us up far beyond our natural pace of moving through the day,

0:39.3

modern technology dissects time into smaller and smaller units,

0:44.3

dispersing it into the consumable, atomized portions that can hardly be felt,

0:50.3

let alone truly and deeply experienced. What might happen if we kept time by listening

0:57.0

to the primordial metronomes that remain both in our physical bodies and the greater body

1:03.0

of the earth? What if we embodied a kind of time that allowed us to be deeply inward and profoundly

1:10.0

attentive to the world around us.

1:13.6

Recently, I spoke with Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Paul Salopek,

1:18.6

who was a decade into a remarkable journey, retracing on foot,

1:22.6

the migration pathway taken by the first humans out of Africa

1:26.6

tens of thousands of years ago.

1:29.3

Speaking to me from Northeastern China, he shares how moving at three miles per hour

1:34.3

has deepened his personal relationship to time.

1:37.3

As Paul becomes attuned to what he terms sacramental time, the boundaries between the physical

1:43.3

and metaphysical begin to blur into an expansive

1:46.9

experience of timelessness.

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