Welcome to Our Hen House. This is Marianne Sullivan. And this is Jasmine Singer. And this week, Jasmine will be speaking with Ayanna Goodfellow, who is a writer, liberator, actor, artist, and organizer based in London in the UK. Ianna has accomplished

a remarkable amount in each of those endeavors while currently just at the age of 17 and while also

pursuing a very successful TV career in such productions as the BBC series, The Offenders, and the Apple TV

series Invasion.

They are truly quite amazing and deeply passionate about animals.

And I would say, I've never heard you more enthusiastic about an interview.

Yeah, and then once Vicky listens, she was the same way.

So I know that you're all going to be flipping out on Mighty Networks, which, by the way, join our Mighty Networks if you haven't yet.

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I'm so excited about this.

You were really raving about it and they sounded just amazing and full of passion and great ideas and intelligence and I can't wait.

Yeah.

So speaking of our handouts related things before we move on,

the Animal Law podcast came out this week.

Tell us about it.

Yeah, I had Kathy Meyer on again.

I've had her on before.

Kathy is, of course, the director of the Harvard Animal Law and Policy Clinic, even though, as we sadly recounted in the interview, it is her last year there.

But what a case to go out on. Oh, my God. It was amazing. You know, when I first read about this case, it was about

psychological enrichment for primates, which is a requirement in the Animal Welfare Act and how it

isn't being enforced. And that, you know, that's important. And it sounds interesting and there

are a lot of legal hooks involved. But the story she had to tell about the outrageous

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