G-I-R-L-S-C-A-M-P is Girls' Camp.

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Girls' Camp podcast. I'm your host, Haley Rawl, and today I am joined by Dr. Julie Hanks.

Hello, Haley.

Welcome.

Thank you.

I'm going to read your intro because you are a very accomplished woman.

Oh, thank you.

Dr. Julie Hanks is a licensed therapist, author, and speaker.

You have been helping women, couples, and families for over 30 years.

You are also the founder of Wasatch Family Therapy, a media contributor, and author.

I think I said author twice, but worth emphasizing, right?

Thank you.

Of course.

I was just telling you this when you walked in.

It feels like such a special full circle moment to have you here on the girls' camp couch

because I have followed you.

I followed you as an active Mormon. I followed

you through my progressive Mormon phase as I was faith deconstructing as I left the church.

And I know that that is not just an experience I've had. I think you've really led and guided

many people, women, especially through what is, you know, one of the

most difficult life transitions. Yeah. Well, thank you. That means a lot. And I love that you followed

me through those phases because I feel like all of the groups, you know, however you lay them out,

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