Today on the Grave Talks, investigating the invisible. We continue our conversation with psychic medium, Holly Faust.

Now, on an entirely different kind of side of you, one of your other, one of your other Hollies,

you're the occult symbol slash spiritual beliefs researcher for Phantomantom detectives group.

Now, tell me a little about the occult symbol part and how you got interested in that.

What do you do with that information?

Do you need that even very often?

Needing it very often, not really unless you're doing like places that have been abandoned or, you know, quote unquote, people are talking about, you know, possible satanic rituals. Um, and for me, it became, um, I had a friend who was actually a practicing Satanist and not a ritualistic one, but,

you know, a theist. And I found how much people didn't understand about the symbology,

not only of stuff like that, but also within older things. You know, like the old, the old symbology of Egyptian times and the

symbology of different Celtic and different regions like that that used a lot of pictures.

And I realized that a lot of things had been taken and made to be bad and evil when they actually started as wholesome

and good. And I felt, you know, so many people were trying to, like, I lived through the,

you know, the satanic panic of the 80s. And I realized how much information was put out there

that caused a mass hysteria that wasn't true.

And so for me, symbology became something that I was very attached to, understanding the symbols where they came from and what they mean.

Because just because you see a symbol doesn't automatically mean that it's bad and evil.

You know, I, I, I'm very much involved in witchcraft.

And our symbology, you know, like a pentacle, is not evil at all.

It's actually a symbol of the elements.

And that's something that people don't understand.

They see that and they think it's bad i had

people when i was wearing one tell me that oh worship the devil no i don't but okay if you want to believe

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