A Mother's Betrayal: The Chilling Forensics of the Daybell Children's Deaths | Part 2
Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan
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🗓️ 11 May 2023
⏱️ 30 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of Body Bags, hosts Joseph Scott Morgan and Dave Mack delve into the tragic and unsettling death of 17-year-old Tylee Ryan. They discuss Tylee's tumultuous family life, her struggle with pancreatitis, the discovery of her remains, the challenges forensic experts faced in determining the cause of death, and they provide insight into the methods and findings of the forensic anthropologist and pathologist.
Time-codes:
00:34 - Introduction to Tylee Ryan's tragic story and difficult life.
01:22 - Tylee's horrifying death and forensic pathologist insights.
03:26 - Tylee's body is discarded and attempts to cover up.
03:15 - The impact of Tylee's mother's multiple marriages on her life.
04:51 - Tylee's medical records reveal stress and anxiety.
06:20 - Explanation of pancreatitis and potential causes.
07:08 - Tylee's stressful family life and stepfather's murder.
08:14 - Tylee's resistance to her mother's manipulations.
09:22 - Lori Vallow's justification for Tylee's murder.
09:37 - Location of Tylee's remains on Chad Daybell's property.
11:41 - Stratification concept in the burn pile investigation.
12:42 - Discovery of Tylee's remains and difference in location from JJ's remains.
13:16 - Importance of multiple senses in an investigation.
15:00 - The crucial role of a forensic anthropologist at the scene.
16:33 - Difficulty in recovering Tylee's fragmented remains.
18:34 - Relationship between forensic pathologists and forensic anthropologists.
20:19 - Odor differences between bones and soft tissue decomposition.
21:00 - Dr. Christensen finds 100 bones of Tylee's remains.
21:13 - Difficulties in identifying specific causes of death for Tylee.
22:09 - Classification of Tylee's death as nonspecific homicidal trauma.
24:10 - Speculation on Tylee's skull fracture cause.
26:12 - Attempt to dismember Tylee's body.
27:48 - Challenges of rendering a body down through fire.
28:18 - Sharp force trauma on Tylee's left hip bone.
29:03 - Tools for dismemberment and potential trace evidence.
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| 0:00.0 | Fending for yourself. I mean, kids is that a platoon in this world we live in now. I know one |
| 0:25.5 | that it did, in fact, apply to Tally Ryan. Tally was a young lady. She had seen the life that her |
| 0:35.1 | mother had lived, five husbands, multiple moves, dissettlement. Tally had essentially become the |
| 0:44.3 | anchor in her family. Certainly, as that applied to her little brother, to Valor, always envision them |
| 0:54.3 | cleaning to one another. There was that image where they're hugging each other very tightly, |
| 0:58.0 | and I would think that in their world, that's really all they had to hold on to for stability |
| 1:02.8 | was one another. But just like with JJ, we found out a lot of disturbing news about how Tally met |
| 1:10.4 | her end because we've heard from the forensic pathologists that did her examination. In this episode, |
| 1:18.8 | we're going to break it down, we're going to discuss it. The horror of Tally's death. |
| 1:25.7 | I'm Joseph Scott Morgan, and this is Body Bags. |
| 1:34.2 | There is no satisfaction, and my listeners know how much I hate the word closure because it doesn't |
| 1:43.1 | exist, particularly when it comes to death. You get answers, and some answers are just |
| 1:48.5 | wanting their unsatisfying, I think, because you haven't quite filled in all of the blanks, |
| 1:55.9 | and unfortunately with Tally Ryan's death, that's kind of the situation we find ourselves in right now. |
| 2:03.2 | But what I can say is that her death was horrific. Dave Mac, would you agree with that assessment? |
| 2:12.8 | 100%. What we know about Tally Ryan and her passing is it's frustrating and sad. I say that |
| 2:23.8 | not lightly, frustrating because we don't still, to this moment, know all the things you would |
| 2:30.0 | normally know about somebody who died. When you have remains to examine, I say remains because |
| 2:37.9 | there was not a body to examine as one would expect when you say body. What happened to Tally Ryan, |
| 2:43.7 | and we don't even know exactly when, what we do know is that Tally Ryan was last seen September 8th |
| 2:50.6 | in Yellowstone Park in a picture with her mother, her little brother JJ, and her uncle Alex Cox, |
| 2:57.7 | who was Laurie Valas' brother. We have that picture, and we have some other information that we |
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