Well, welcome back to another episode of five minutes in church history. We a few episodes ago had Dr. Derek Thomas with us and

We have him back. We're here at Ligonier's National Conference, so we've pulled him out of his

Post up there in Columbia, South Carolina brought him down to Orlando. It is always a pleasure for me to spend time with you, Dr.

Thomas. Thank you for being with us.

Thank you, Steve. No, no chicken fried chicken and Johnny cakes this time.

We'll catch that on the next round.

Well, we talk about the Reformation in church history. We talk about the Great Awakening.

There's so many key events that we talk about.

Let's take a moment and maybe discuss an event that doesn't get

attention all of the time, but nevertheless one that you think would be helpful for folks to remember,

and maybe even an event that had a particular impact on you and your ministry.

Does anything come to mind as you think about it?

This is a great question, and I actually thought about it more than

more than any of the other questions, because there are so many events, and I thought of doing something

quirky and out of the way out of the ordinary.

But I think Calcedan in 451, which surprisingly, even in our circles, does not get the attention

that it should, and the relationship between the human and divine natures of Jesus,

fending off all kinds of issues, nistoranism and utikinism and dothatism and a whole lot of other

things. These are very complex heresies that had made their way into the church.

Yes, and a Polynarianism, and I think the Polynarianism is alive and well in the modern

reformed church. I mean, a lot of preachers, if you, you know, I do this thing with my students,

you know, you're in Kaepernam, Jesus is sitting on a wall, disciples have gone to Chick-fil-A to get

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