Probably my most urgent call to my new Christian right friends is to start with grace with people,

explain things to them in a cordial manner. You can be a bit blunt every now and then. Again, it's a

contextual judgment call you have to make in every different situation, but ultimately grace has to be your default posture.

Otherwise, well, a, otherwise you're sinning, you're harmingning your own soul but also in a practical matter

you are prohibiting our ranks from actually growing shall hold on pray up we're gaining ground

glory hallelujah the dead's alive and the lost is found.

Glory, hallelujah.

Welcome to Let's Talk Eschatology, where we bring in various guests to discuss how theology and eschatology and all things biblical

shape our lives. My guest for today's episode is Paul Facey. He is a Sydney-based

Anglican who produces content on scripture, theology, and history with the particular aim of providing

Christians with the resources to set these same issues for themselves and not just

trust his word.

He does all of this from an Anglican Foundation.

And finally, he's currently working on a book entitled On the Right to Descent, which

will be kind of the main talking point for our conversation.

Paul, thanks for joining the show.

Thank you so much for having me on, John. I'm really hoping that this

discussion is fruitful and really beneficial, especially for those on quote unquote, my side

of the whole debate. Yeah, I mean, there's been a lot of conversation around the right in general,

obviously with the election in America, you're obviously based in Australia,

but I'm sure you've been keeping up with that election and how that's kind of shifted

some conversation. But even on among Christians, you know, conservative Christians,

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