Hello wineappers, my name is Jesse Mekin with another episode of The One and Podcast where

we teach you four rules to help you stop and pitch.

You can pitch, I can get out of debt and save more money trying to have you ultimately

really transform your relationship with money.

You want you to not have it be so stressful or as Katie says that works at wineapp, she

said there is one big downside to radically transforming how you work with money, adopting

the four rules, living the method.

It's a massive downside and it is that you are friends because you are so chill and relaxed

about money.

Your friends think you make 250 grand a year and that is a downside because then when

the bill comes they look at you, you know, they just think, well Katie can cover that.

She obviously makes 250k because she is so chill and relaxed when it comes to money.

Everyone knows the way you relax about money is you increase your options.

So yeah, someone that makes 250k all else equal, they will be more relaxed because they have

more options but it's not about making more money every once in a while it is.

But for those of you listening to this podcast, for what we know about you and what you've

told us about yourselves, it really for the most part is not about making more money.

It's about having the money do what you really want it to do.

And if you want to be relaxed with your money, just start building up a pile of decisions

not yet made and that is called cash.

You just pile it up so you look ahead to larger, less frequent expenses.

You brainstorm, nothing's off limits.

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