A Lowdown Showdown to a Broke-down Shutdown
The John Fugelsang Podcast
Crossover Media Group
4.8 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 9 October 2025
⏱️ 88 minutes
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Summary
Democratic Strategist Max Burns guest hosts for John while he is on stage in Chicago for the Separation of Church and Hate tour. Max discusses the absurd Republican excuses for continuing the government shutdown and for not swearing in Adelita Grijalva, who won a special election to the House of Representatives in Arizona's 7th Congressional District on Sept. 23rd. Then, he interviews writer, director, actor, and producer - Tim Blake Nelson. They talk about his new play "And Then There Were No More". Next, he jokes with investigative reporter Brian Karem about his new book: "Free the Press: The Death of American Journalism and How to Revive It" and his latest podcast "Hard Pass" where Brian is joined by two university journalism professors, and they analyze whether news medias are holding the White House accountable in their coverage. And finally, he speaks with Democratic Columnist Jared Yates Sexton about his latest piece on Substak "A Crisis of Meaning and Purpose: Our Identities Have No Bodies".
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| 0:00.0 | This is the John Fuglesang podcast. |
| 0:10.1 | I am so glad that you can join me here tonight. |
| 0:13.0 | It has been a week. |
| 0:14.4 | I have had a week. |
| 0:15.6 | Our country has had a week. |
| 0:18.5 | Now, you may have guessed from this masculine lumberjack voice coming through the radio at you. |
| 0:23.7 | The great John Fugel saying is off tonight. |
| 0:26.0 | He is tearing it up at Zanies in Chicago, where the Chicago Cubs can finally say that they have won |
| 0:32.3 | one of the postseason games here against the Brewers. |
| 0:35.5 | I got to see that right before we came on. One rare bit of |
| 0:39.3 | happiness in this bleeding, sad world. I am Democratic strategist and Progress's own Max Burns, |
| 0:47.0 | keeping the chair warm while Mr. Fugel sang is out saving the world with that Amazon bestselling |
| 0:52.6 | book of his separation of church and hate. Make sure to |
| 0:56.0 | pick up a copy when you can because it is a beast of a read. The government's still closed. |
| 1:02.3 | So are the Epstein files, which must be great for Donald Trump because having nothing to do all day |
| 1:07.6 | is exactly the kind of thing that he does best. Now, we saw just a couple |
| 1:13.1 | hours ago some news coming out of the White House, Donald Trump, heading to Walter Reed |
| 1:18.0 | Hospital on Friday for his annual checkup. But that's weird, because maybe he forgot. He already |
| 1:25.8 | got his annual checkup back on April 11th when he said it was also his annual checkup. |
| 1:33.3 | A lot of annual checkups here. |
| 1:35.9 | Maybe he forgot. |
| 1:37.0 | Maybe he needs to get another cognitive test. |
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