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secure. Hello and welcome to this week's episode of A Little Wiser. I am here with Christy Peterson.

Hello, Christy. Hi, Kimmy. Today we are going to talk about achievement, striving for big goals, or as I like to call it, enoughness.

Because sometimes striving for our big goals is part of wanting to feel enough, right? This human desire we all have to be seen as enough. And this conversation, like all

these conversations we have on these many episodes, are inspired by a guest. And this guest is

Aaron Ralston. As a reminder, Aaron Ralston was on a climbing trip in Utah by himself when he fell into a canyon and was pinned to the wall by a boulder,

where he would eventually, over a four-day period, come to the conclusion that the only way to survive

and to live would be to cut his arm off. Obviously, a very dramatic story turned into a

movie in which James Franco played Aaron. He had so many lessons in what he described as that

canyon, at the time he thought was his grave, the place he would die. One of them, and the one, Christy, that you pointed out,

was achievement. So today I think we hope to have a conversation about this notion of achieving,

of striving, of enoughness, and what that looks like. And the good and the bad of achievement,

right? Because there are two sides to this coin. But he had a big realization

in the canyon about all of his striving for more and more success as an athlete and as a climber.

So here's Aaron Ralston on achievement as he spent all of his time, you know, dedicated to

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