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everything secure. This is Kimmy Kulp, the host of All the Wiser and the Little Wiser,

and I'm here with my producer, Erica. Hey, Erica. Hey, Kimmy. So today we're going to talk about something that you and I are both fascinated about,

which is locked in syndrome.

And last week, we shared a conversation with the young, incredible Victoria Arlen,

who spent essentially four years in a coma, two of which she was awake and

locked in her body. So we've dug in to learn more about this. It's fascinating. Terrifying, really.

Oh, terrifying. I think the reason I'm so obsessed, Erica, is because that's kind of my fear. I'm

claustrophobic. Like, my heart races and elevators. Like, if I think the door is locked, it always has

been. It's really interesting because I speak publicly and have done so in front of thousands of

people and people are like,

how in the world can you public speak?

And I'm like, well, I can't ride an elevator, but I can't.

The notion of being trapped in your body and she used the example of that moment where her nose,

she wanted to scratch her nose.

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