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What It's Like To Be... with Dan Heath

A Lineman

What It's Like To Be... with Dan Heath

Dan Heath

Curiosity, Careers, Storytelling, Business, Human Interest, Jobs, Society & Culture

4.9820 Ratings

🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Wiring a neighborhood back to life after a tornado, coveting the work of helicopter linemen in Faraday suits, and surviving the collapse of a rotten utility pole with Elden Rivas, a journeyman lineman in Houston, Texas. What is the one sound on the crew radio that stops every lineman cold? And why does a squirrel on a transformer mean easy money? WANT MORE EPISODE SUGGESTIONS? Grab our What It's Like To Be... "starter pack". It's a curated Spotify playlist with some essential episodes fr...

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0:00.0

Eldon Rivas was in the middle of nowhere.

0:03.8

He's an electrical lineman, and he was replacing an old utility pole.

0:08.2

Before he could put up the new pole, though, he had to do a bit of work on it.

0:12.5

And so I was framing this pole, drilling holes through it with this auger and this drill.

0:18.7

And he's working off a blueprint, which can be kind of complicated, and he's

0:22.9

reading it, and he makes a mistake. I messed up. I was drilling like, oops. No, it's supposed to be

0:28.4

two foot above, not one foot. And so I had to real drill it. And so I climb up the old wood pole.

0:34.3

I'm up in the air, and I noticed on the wood pole, the old one that was on, I saw these

0:39.4

lines. And this pole, back in 1962, whoever was drilling this, had made the exact same mistake

0:48.9

I did.

0:52.7

Now, how did you know it was that old?

0:55.8

It has birth marks on it.

0:58.0

Yeah, every woodpole has like a stamp on it.

1:00.5

Okay.

1:01.0

And this dude made the exact same mistake.

1:04.2

That is wild.

1:05.6

And I'm like, oh my goodness.

1:07.9

Our industry is revolving door.

1:10.7

Yeah. Do you ever leave marks for the linemen of the future?

1:15.7

I do. I usually carry a little Sharpie with me, and I put a smiley face.

1:22.1

Just to brighten someone's day in the future.

1:24.6

That's my little, uh, it's my signature.

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