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A.I. Is a Hyperobject

Slate Money

Slate Podcasts

Investing, Business

4.11.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 March 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

This week: We summoned technologist and journalist Paul Ford to answer all our questions about A.I. As he explains to Felix Salmon, Elizabeth Spiers, and Emily Peck, A.I. is a hyperobject that touches everything in unknowable ways. They get into “vibe coding,” how it could change the game for small businesses and large corporations alike, and other concerns—like A.I.-powered wars. 




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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Sleet Money, your guide to the business and finance news of the week.

0:15.2

I'm Felix Simon of Bloomberg. I'm here with Elizabeth Spires of New York Times.

0:19.3

Hello.

0:20.0

With Emily Peck of Axios.

0:22.6

Hello, hello.

0:23.8

And we have an AI extravaganza this week.

0:28.4

We are finally doing it, people.

0:30.4

And I can tell you the story, which is basically that Elizabeth went into the Slack one day and said,

0:36.6

listen, we can't talk about AI unless we have someone who knows what they're talking about.

0:41.2

And specifically gave the example of this one guy, Paul Ford.

0:44.8

And I'm like, we love Paul on this show.

0:47.2

And so, ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, the one and only Paul Ford.

0:53.1

We have to stop meeting like this. You probably need

0:55.6

no introduction. You've been on this show many times, but who are you? And how do you know about this

1:00.1

AI thing? So I am the president and co-founder of an AI services and platform shop. We build

1:08.0

things for clients using AI. But I also still sort of function as a journalist

1:12.4

and a technologist. So I write and talk about it. And around the beginning last year, I brought myself

1:18.1

sort of out of retirement as a programmer in order to really see if I, as a pretty mid-level

1:23.6

programmer, could use these new tools to be productive and to really get my head around them. And so I've spent the last more than a year, but especially the last four or five months,

1:30.8

just going super, super deep and trying to just get my bearings.

1:34.1

And so that's what I can share with you.

1:36.2

So this is amazing.

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