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Hard Fork

A.I. Backlash Turns Violent + Kara Swisher on Healthmaxxing + The Zuck Bot Is Coming

Hard Fork

The New York Times

Technology

4.35.7K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2026

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Is anti-A.I. radicalization a growing trend?

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0:00.0

Casey, how are you?

0:01.7

I'm good. I'm good. I'm feeling a little bummed because this morning I was listening to

0:09.8

be my lover, the 90s jock jam. That kind of a loud volume is about 6.50 in the morning.

0:17.1

And my, you know, fiancé kind of came into the bathroom and I tried to dance with him.

0:22.4

And he was like, I don't want to dance right now. I just want to go to the gym.

0:27.0

I was like, who can resist be my lover by Laboosh?

0:31.3

Yeah.

0:31.9

Those people knew what they were doing.

0:33.7

I think if you are asked to dance before 7 a.m., It is within your rights as an American citizen to say no to that.

0:40.9

Here's my invitation to America.

0:42.8

Let the spirit move you.

0:44.2

There's a lot going on in this country.

0:46.4

And if you hear a sick beat, show it some respect.

0:57.0

I'm Kevin Ruse, a tech call for The New York Times. I'm Casey Noon from Platformer.

0:58.7

And this is hard for this week.

1:00.5

The AI backlash has turned violent.

1:02.6

We'll debate what's making it so unpopular.

1:05.2

Then Kara Switzer returns to the show to discuss her new documentary on Silicon Valley's obsession with living longer. And finally, can CEOs replace themselves with AI? Mark Zuckerberg may be giving it a shot.

1:17.8

And we wish him the best. Godspeed.

1:36.0

Well, Casey, we announced last week that our tickets for Hard Fork Live to Electric Bougaloo were going on sale.

1:38.4

That is happening today.

1:40.7

The moment has arrived, Kevin.

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