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This is Deep State Radio, coming to you direct from our super secret studio in the third sub-basement of the Ministry of Snark in Washington, D.C.

and from other undisclosed locations across America and around the world.

Hello and welcome to the latest edition of the podcast. I'm your host David Roscoff, coming to you from New York City,

because it's that time of the week we're joined again by Simon Rosenberg, our co-host, Simon is president of NDN and the New Policy Institute,

and no doubt still basking in the glow of last week's achievements, or have you already started to worry about the next challenges, Simon?

Today, David, I think we're all feeling the emotion of Nancy Pelosi and her retirement remarks just a few minutes ago, big day here in the country and in democratic politics.

Well, I'm going to ask you about that in one minute and talk about the departing generation before we talk about the new generation.

But we want to talk about next generation politics today, and we are joined by John Dalbope, who is the director of polling at the Harvard Kennedy School of Institute of Politics,

and the author of Fight How Gen Z is channeling their fear and passion to save America by John.

It's great to be with you, David. Good to see you.

Simon, we not only had Nancy Pelosi's remarks, which had been long expected, but we also have an announcement that Steny Hoyer is stepping down from the leadership,

which means we're going to have a whole reset on the damn leadership at a very sensitive moment, at a moment when, you know, I read a lot about people talking about Republican controls,

but if the Republicans end up with 220, you know, two, three people switch, and the Democrats control whatever the issue is.

So you need death leadership in that situation. Do you think it's going to happen and how's that going to look?

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