Hi, Elise Lunen here, co-host with Gwyneth of the Goop podcast.

Today's guest is incredibly fascinating. His name is Joelle Salinas.

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Don't hold anything too tightly.

Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the intention of real truth for you, and then let it go.

For me, our soul is like it's unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves.

When people stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming, we turn to ourselves,

and that's where you become empowered.

Courageous participation attracts positive things.

I'm Gwyneth Paltrow.

This is the Goop podcast, bringing together thought leaders, culture changers, creatives, founders and CEOs,

scientists, doctors, healers and seekers, here to start conversations,

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