Welcome to part two of our interview with Kevin Trasavitch about the demonic home haunting involving the Riric family.

I know in this case we're talking about something demonic, but when you're dealing with the case where it's not demonic and it was a human spirit or soul.

And someone wants it out of the house because it is troubling them, it is bothering them, it is disturbing them.

What are the parameters on something like that? Can something like that be destroyed for lack of a better term or moved on to another level?

Or is that another thing where it's just relocated?

Well, now I see people that say they could remove a ghost from a house, a human spirit. You can't.

A human spirit will only move on when it wants to. It has some kind of attachments in the house.

And either psychologically there's something about the house, it was very possessive of something in the house.

It was very protective of somebody in the house and it won't move on until it wants to.

There are some tricks that are tried to keep it quelled that you can never really get rid of it.

And what we pride ourselves with in the Central Presidency of Annual Paranormal Research Association, we just don't go into the house that yes or outside it, we try to help people live with the entity.

And there's ways you can psychological control the entity. It will still be there. And if anybody charges by saying I can get your visit, goes out of your house for I've seen $500, that's garbage.

And it's because they will never move on. They'll stay but you can control them. You treat them like a bad relative.

A relative of them when you're asked, I can't get rid of you set up guidelines for it.

And after a while people do the stuff, we give them the little tricks of the trade. There's nothing, anything witchcraft or anything.

It's just basically things they could do around the house that they could control the environment and actually make it weaker.

What's more difficult to deal with in terms of end goal being eradicating or tampering down the activity in a home.

Is it dealing with a demonic entity that can be pushed out or is it more difficult to deal with a human spirit that has more will or choice to say I'm not leaving.

Actually, the Monika can be the worst to do with because we've had deal with because we've had people that we've we've cleansed their house.

It settled down, but then they go back to their old actions before they go back to I had one lady this was years ago that factor practice practice of black arts.

And she brought something in which normally it would and then she called six months later it's back in my house. Well, what were you doing? I was doing the same thing. I said, well, you brought it back in again.

That was kind of stupid.

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