A Deep Dive on China and the Uighurs

The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Institute

International Law, Law, Government, Foreign Policy, News, Politics, Rule Of Law, International Relations, Current Events, Military, Constitutional Law, Intelligence, National Security, History, Terrorism, Diplomacy

4.7 • 6.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 July 2020

⏱️ 59 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

We talk a lot about Chinese policy in Hong Kong, but there's another human rights crisis going on in China in the province of Xinjiang. It concerns the Turkic minority known as the Uighurs whom the Chinese government has been rounding up and putting in reeducation camps. It is an ugly story—one that the Chinese government has gone to great lengths to keep from international attention, with some degree of success. To walk us through the situation in Xinjiang, Benjamin Wittes spoke with Jessica Batke, a senior editor at ChinaFile; Darren Byler, a postdoctoral fellow at the University of Colorado at Boulder whose research focuses on Uighur dispossession; and Maya Wang, a senior China researcher for Human Rights Watch, who has written extensively on the use of biometrics, artificial intelligence and big data in mass surveillance in China.

Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/lawfare.

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair
0:07.2	podcast become a material supporter of LawFair at patreon.com slash LawFair.
0:14.7	That's patreon.com slash LawFair.
0:18.2	Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair
0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:34.0	And once the terrorism rhetoric entered the discourse, a whole new range of ways of dealing
0:40.6	with the Weger population began to emerge.
0:42.6	And that's why over time we saw this police state be built, we saw the othering of the
0:47.0	Weger population, the kind of dehumanization of them begin to emerge and eventually
0:52.5	alleged the camp system that we see today.
0:55.6	I'm Benjamin Whitteson.
0:57.1	This is the LawFair podcast July 15, 2020.
1:02.6	We talk a lot about Chinese policy in Hong Kong, but there's another human rights crisis
1:08.6	going on in China in the province of Xinjiang.
1:12.5	It concerns the Turkic minority known as the Weger's whom the Chinese government has
1:18.9	been rounding up and putting in reeducation camps.
1:24.2	It is an ugly, ugly story.
1:26.7	One that the Chinese government has gone to great lengths to keep from international attention
1:33.2	with some degree of success.
1:35.7	We got a remarkable panel of people to walk us through the situation in Xinjiang.
1:41.6	Jessica Bakke is a senior editor at China File in New York City and was previously a
1:49.3	foreign affairs research analyst in the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence and Research
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Lawfare Institute, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of The Lawfare Institute and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.