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The Symbolic World

A Dangerous Movie in the Best Way Possible

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Education

4.8824 Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

I had the pleasure of speaking with filmmaker Josh David Jordan about his new movie El Tonto Por Cristo. It’s a black-and-white art film set in a Texas monastery — poetic, strange, and deeply moving. What struck me most is how the film weaves together powerful Orthodox imagery, the mystery of the holy fool, all with a totally unique visual language. This isn’t just a message movie — it’s real cinema.
Check out the Kickstarter and be part of bringing this movie to theaters. This is a rare and important project. 
El Tonto Por Cristo: A Cinematic Meditation. An Orthodox film set in a Texas monastery. Help bring this black-and-white story of beauty, holiness, & mystery to theaters worldwide.
https://www.eltontoporcristo.com/
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/748841722/el-tonto-por-cristo-a-cinematic-meditation

Original YouTube version: https://youtu.be/pbM5VN9YvCE

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0:00.0

But your movie has within the aesthetics of the movie.

0:04.6

So it's like the very way the story is told and the very way it's shot and some of the images, embed the Holy Fool structure in it.

0:13.8

So it's not like you're using a nice kind of normal way of people, the way people, a modern cinema audience looks at a movie, like here's

0:22.3

just a frame, a box, and I'm watching a story, but you use aesthetic means in the story

0:27.8

to bring about the thing. And so there's an interesting modern aspect to what you're doing,

0:33.4

but that's why I think the movie is so It's so particular because of that

0:38.7

Because the very means by which you tell the story

0:41.5

Are making you experience what it is the movie is about

0:45.3

This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

1:10.7

Hello, everyone. I am here with Josh David Jordan. Hello, everyone.

1:12.1

I am here with Josh David Jordan.

1:15.1

Josh is a Texan filmmaker.

1:17.8

You can tell just by looking at him.

1:21.0

He just put out his, well, not put out.

1:24.0

Like he just finished his second feature film,

1:25.9

which is called El Tonto Procristo.

1:28.9

It is a really beautiful and poetic exploration of this imagery around the Holy Fool and kind of this edge of the

1:36.8

world symbolism of this monastery in Texas. It's a very beautiful movie. I had the chance to see

1:42.6

with Richard Rowland, Deacon Seraphim,

1:46.0

maybe a few months ago, and was kind of blown away.

1:48.6

I've been following this movie for several months, for like a year now, I think.

1:52.7

You know, I met Josh before, and I'd seen a kind of rough cut of the movie, but finally

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