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Hello, everybody. This is Martha McCallum and this is The Untold Story Podcast. And I'm very happy today to be joined by Rachel Campos Duffy and Joe Conja, both friends of mine and both really good parents.

In fact, Joe's a Disney World right now.

And that's pretty cool, taking his kids there.

So, you know, something really struck me this week.

And it keeps sticking with me.

And it's this Wall Street Journal, N-O-R-C poll that came out.

And it showed some pretty shocking things about the state of the country.

Essentially, patriotism, religion, and desire to have a family are down roughly 30 points over

roughly the last 20 years. And I think we're all having a lot of questions about what is going on in this country

right now. And honestly, I'm a very optimistic, positive person by nature, but I kind of feel

like things are unraveling, whether you look at foreign policy or you look at American family,

patriotism, all of the things that I just mentioned in this element.

So I wanted to talk to both of you about this.

And I also want to talk about how we make it better, about solutions.

So let me just get your kind of top line reaction to this poll, Rachel, when you saw it this week.

You have how many children?

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