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The Daily

A Criminal Underworld of Child Abuse, Part 1

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2020

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Note: This episode contains descriptions of child sexual abuse. A monthslong New York Times investigation has uncovered a digital underworld of child sexual abuse imagery that is hiding in plain sight. In part one of a two-part series, we look at the almost unfathomable scale of the problem — and just how little is being done to stop it. Guests: Michael H. Keller, an investigative reporter at The New York Times, and Gabriel J.X. Dance, an investigations editor for The Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading: Last year, tech companies reported over 60 million online photos and videos of children being sexually abused. Lawmakers foresaw this crisis years ago, but enforcement has fallen short. Our reporters investigated the problem and asked: Can it be stopped?Tech companies detected a surge in online videos of child sexual abuse last year, with encrypted social messaging apps enabling abusers to share images under a cloak of secrecy.Here are six takeaways from The Times’s investigation of the boom in online child sex abuse.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's not altogether uncommon in investigations for us to turn up information that is shocking

0:10.8

and disturbing.

0:13.9

The challenge is when in the course of your reporting you come across something so depraved

0:19.3

and so shocking that it demands attention.

0:23.9

You will have to know about this, but nobody wants to hear about it.

0:31.6

How do you tell that story?

0:39.9

From the New York Times, I'm Michael Obaro.

0:43.3

This is The Daily.

0:47.5

A month's long time investigation uncovers a digital underworld of child sexual abuse

0:56.0

imagery that is hiding in plain sight.

1:01.7

In part one, my colleagues, Michael Keller and Gabriel Dance, on the almost unfathomable

1:08.3

scale of the problem and just how little is being done to stop it.

1:17.2

This Wednesday, February 19th.

1:29.3

Gabriel, tell me how this investigation first got started.

1:33.7

So it all began with a tip.

1:36.8

Early last year we got a tip from a guy and this guy was looking up bullets.

1:42.8

Bullets for guns.

1:43.5

Bullets for guns.

1:45.5

He was actually looking for a very specific weight of bullet on Microsoft's being search

1:52.3

engine.

1:53.9

While he was looking up these bullets, he started getting results of children being sexually

2:01.5

abused.

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