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The Daily

A Criminal Underworld of Child Abuse, Part 2

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2020

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Yesterday on “The Daily,” we heard about the government’s failure to crack down on the explosive growth of child sexual abuse imagery online. In the second half of this series, we look at the role of the nation’s biggest tech companies, and why — despite pleas from victims — the illicit images remain online. Guest: Michael H. Keller, an investigative reporter at the The New York Times, and Gabriel J.X. Dance, an investigations editor for The Times, spoke with the mother and stepfather of a teenager who was sexually abused as a child. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Background reading: The tech industry has recently been more diligent in identifying online child sexual abuse imagery, but it has consistently failed to shut it down, a Times investigation found. Facebook accounted for more than 85 percent of the imagery flagged by tech companies last year.Two sisters opened up about their lives after being sexually abused as children. Photos and videos of them online continue to remind them of the horrors they experienced.Here’s the first episode in this two-part series, describing how a finding from a tipster led to The Times’s monthslong investigation of online child abuse imagery.

Transcript

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0:00.0

From the New York Times, Unlikable Barrow.

0:05.8

This is the Daily.

0:08.8

Yesterday, my colleague's Michael Keller in Gabriel Dance described the government's

0:15.2

failure to crack down on the explosive growth of child sexual abuse imagery online.

0:22.5

Today, the role of the nation's biggest tech companies and why despite pleas from victims,

0:31.2

those illicit images can still be found online.

0:36.6

It's Thursday, February 20th.

0:42.0

Last summer, Gabriel and I got on a plane and flew to the West Coast to meet

1:00.1

a lawyer's office to speak with a family that she'd been representing.

1:07.8

So we explained to them a little bit about our reporting and why it was so important

1:14.5

that we speak with them.

1:19.2

And who is this family?

1:21.1

All we can say is that this is a mom and a stepdad who live on the West Coast.

1:26.2

And that's because they only felt comfortable speaking with us if we could protect their

1:30.1

privacy.

1:34.1

I mean, we started this not knowing anything about it and I might get emotional here, but

1:40.1

as parents, we're trying to figure out the best way for our kid to deal with this.

1:46.2

And they started to tell us a story about what happened to their daughter.

1:49.3

It was August 21st, 2013.

1:53.7

How's it work?

1:55.0

She was shopping with our two middle children.

1:58.9

So one day, six years ago, the mom is out with her kids doing some back to school shopping

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