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🗓️ 19 February 2025
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0:11.0 | Search for Adobe Express to find out more. Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Untold Story podcast. I'm Martha McCallum. We bring in NATO Secretary, General Mark Ruta. Secretary General, very good to have you with us. You have just been in the middle of these meetings. |
0:37.5 | We've seen some headlines. |
0:39.3 | Thank you very much. |
0:40.4 | We've seen some of these headlines coming out from leaders from Poland, basically saying |
0:45.3 | that they understand that the situation is very different now. |
0:48.8 | Europe absolutely must step up to the table in terms of expenditures. |
0:53.3 | What is your take on these talks between the |
0:55.6 | United States and Russia and Europe being excluded? Well, this meeting was really very successful. |
1:02.1 | What you see today, we had General Kellogg, President Trump's special representative at NATO |
1:07.0 | this morning with the ambassadors, and now we had this meeting here in Paris with many |
1:11.5 | European leaders and really Europe is now stepping up. |
1:14.7 | Last week I was a bit disappointed that Europeans were saying, hey, we also have to be at the table |
1:20.5 | and why are we not there and they are now really starting to dialogue to strategize how they can |
1:25.9 | support the peace effort. And that is important |
1:28.0 | because we know that post a peace deal, there will be the need to make that peace deal lasting |
1:33.6 | enduring. And that means we need security guarantees. So Europe can play a role there with a clear |
1:38.1 | backup from the United States. So this was good. This was really a good day. We are moving |
1:43.1 | forward here. So what I'm hearing is that NATO is now okay with allowing the United States and Russia to have these negotiations. |
1:54.0 | What about Ukraine? |
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