And the I want to fall from the stars.

So Roger Penrose, now that is a name

that would come up on our podcast quite a bit Dr Craig and you had a chance to speak with him on your English speaking tour as well as being on a radio program with him from our friend Justin Briarley of unbelievable.

Yes, we had about an hour and a half on the air together and this radio program

still hasn't aired yet. I think it will probably be released very soon.

What was it like for you to meet with a man that you have studied for quite some time in your own work?

Well I found him to be very warm and

congenial. Um, he's a very slight man. Um, short, quite thin. Um, I think he's in his 80s now, and so somewhat frail, his eyes

sight is going. They asked us to sign a release form and I was struck that he held it right up to his

nose in an attempt to see where to sign his name and they helped him to do so.

And I wondered how in the world did he get to the studio and then I was told, well, they hired a car and fetched him from Oxford University

and brought him to the studio in London.

So sadly he is extremely poorly cited now and has difficulty with his eyes.

Very friendly.

For those who may not be familiar with Roger Penrose, what is his claim to fame, great contribution?

Well, several. One of the most famous would be his collaboration with Stephen Hawking to develop the singularity

theorem to bear their name the Hawking-Penrose

Singularity Theorems, which showed that the prediction of an initial beginning point of the universe at which space

and time, matter and energy came into existence was not merely a feature of an ideal unrealistic model,

but in fact was a feature of any universe governed by the equations of the general theory of relativity.

I imagine that one of the things that you would take advantage of is rather than send him an email and then maybe get a reply back is that you could just

ask him a couple of questions there of points of clarification.

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