You are listening to the War on the Rocks podcast on strategy, defense, and foreign affairs.

My name is Ryan Evans and the founder of War in the Rocks.

I was grateful to be invited to travel recently with General CQ Brown, the chief of staff of the Air Force.

We went down to the Air Force.

We went down to Maxwell Air Force Base and Auburn University.

And on the way back on the plane, we recorded an episode of the podcast.

Enjoy the show.

You run a military service.

You must have a pretty intense schedule. I've seen a bit of it today.

Are you just working 12 hours, 7 days a week?

How do you maintain the rhythm that you have? And how does that affect your staff?

And how do you sustain that what's it like

it does take some stamina and and so you know part of how I start my days the first

thing I do is I usually get up to go work out so I'm up my arm goes off about

450 roll out a bed about five we have a home gym that we kind of built after COVID

in our house and sometimes I'll go run but more times than not we've worked out for 30, 40 minutes.

Cool off, have breakfast, do some email, then get dressed and head to the office about seven and then the day is pretty much

full of meetings until my last meeting is usually about five so I'm out the door

by about 536 and then come home have dinner watching

the evening news and then I will do my homework so I get homework each night and

then on the weekends I try to block out time where I mean I have homework but I will

block out half a day either on Saturday morning you know sleeping a little bit go do

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