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Ridiculous crime is a production of IHeart Radio. Zarin. Elizabeth. Zarin. Yeah, what up, girl. How are you? I'm doing pretty good. How are you feeling? You know, like I said, always, I'm upright and taking nourishment. I'm on the right side of the grass. I got nothing complaining about. Above ground and getting paid. You know, girl.

That's right.

That is right.

Do you know it's ridiculous? I'm on the right side of the grass. I got nothing complaining about. Above ground and getting paid.

You know, girl. That's right. That is right. Do you know it's ridiculous? I do. Tell me. This one I think you might like because that has to do with animals. And I know you like the animals. I love animals. So you know Coco the gorilla, right? Not personally. Well, you know Cocoa the gorilla could speak with sign language. Yes. Right? And they like, they would ask and then Cocoa Guerrillo would respond and they go back and

forth and have conversations in sign language. Well, Cocoa the gorilla wasn't the only ape that we've

taught sign language. In fact, since like 1960s, so we're talking decades, like six, what is, six

decades of teaching sign language to apes. There's one thing that they have never, ever done in sign language. You know what that is? What's that? Ask a question. Apes have never asked us a question. We ask them questions. They answer them. They express themselves. They talk about their emotions. They talk about their inner reality. They talk about their desires, their hopes. Like Coco wants a kitten. I mean, like they say all this stuff, Coco's sad.

Coco wants a burkin bag. But wait, so they don't give a tinker's damn about us.

It's not even that. I like where you take it. But it's the idea that they don't formulate in terms of questioning reality.

They accept reality as it is and comment on it.

So this may suggest an animal form of consciousness that it just is and you can interact with reality, but they don't question it.

And this may be not that animals don't think, but they don't think the way we think. And this is actually what separates us from the animals is not just our opposable thumbs, but the fact that we ask questions. Yeah. Isn't that wild? That is wild. I just think that's kind of ridiculous in a light scientific way. But I like it. That's really interesting. Here I'm like, you don't care about me, Coco? Coco, not happy with Elizabeth?

Coco, I feel like this is kind of a one-sided relationship.

Here, I got you another burking bag, Coco.

Would you love me now?

Do you want to know what else is ridiculous?

I do.

A gentleman's tiger.

Is that a euphemism?

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