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Music This is Find Your Dream Job.

The podcast helps you get hired, have the career you want, and make a difference in life.

I'm your host, Mac Pritchard.

I'm also the founder of Max List.

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One of the best ways to get good at job hunting is to talk to people who do it well.

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