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🗓️ 20 January 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Published on the day of Trump’s inauguration, this episode takes brief stock of Biden’s unusual farewell address before pivoting to the perilous future. A great roundtable of Talking Feds stalwarts--Jonathan Alter, Norm Eisen, & Jen Rubin--assesses the confirmation hearings & what they suggest about the nature of Trump rule, as well as the prospects for the most controversial nominees, especially Kash Patel. We end with a set of open-ended reflections about what to expect in the next few months.
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0:00.0 | Ranking Member Durbin, President Biden is the president of the United States. |
0:05.3 | He was duly sworn in, and he is the president of the United States. |
0:09.0 | There was a peaceful transition of power. |
0:11.9 | President Trump left office and was overwhelmingly elected in 2024. |
0:30.7 | Welcome to Talking Feds, a roundtable that brings together prominent former federal officials and special guests for a dynamic discussion of the most important political and legal |
0:36.0 | topics of the day. I'm Harry Littman. |
0:39.5 | On May 29, 2010, Hungary was a flourishing democracy with a free press, strong civil liberties, |
0:48.0 | an independent judiciary, and a multi-party political system. That day marked Victor Orban's return to power as Prime Minister after a free and fair |
0:59.1 | election driven by public outrage over the incumbent government's mishandling of the 2008 |
1:05.8 | financial crisis. |
1:07.8 | In his years out of power, Orban had cemented his control over Fides, molding it into a vehicle for his brand of right-wing populism. |
1:17.6 | In short order, Orban's government, having commandeered the legal and political system, eviscerated judicial independence and installed a loyalist judiciary. |
1:29.3 | It attacked and undermined the free press, enacted election laws that hugely advantaged Fides and ended free and fair elections, |
1:38.3 | labeled dissenters as foreign agents and restricted their activities, and overhauled the Constitution to centralize and consolidate |
1:47.0 | power. Fifteen years later, Orban remains firmly entrenched, his rules sustained by these subversions |
1:55.1 | of democracy, despite repeated condemnation from the European Union and the broader international community. |
2:03.1 | Donald Trump, who returns to official power at noon today, has consistently expressed |
2:09.3 | admiration for Orban as a, quote, tough and quote, smart leader and a, quote, strong man. |
2:16.8 | During his debate with Kamala Harris, Trump dismissed her claim that world leaders lacked respect for him, |
2:23.6 | citing Orban as a counter example in calling him, quote, one of the most respected men. |
2:30.3 | Following Trump's election victory, the two leaders spoke by phone with Orban declaring afterwards that they had, quote, |
2:36.4 | big plans for the future. Then, just last month, Orban came to Mar-a-Lago to visit with Trump and Elon Musk. |
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