And I welcome you back to the Bill Bennett show. This is the podcast that takes a look at

the news of the day. And we try to have thoughtful conversation about things that matter.

Would you say that's true, Claude? I think so, absolutely.

And response on email says that as well, right? Often called a very thoughtful show. You

are, you know, where people go to get a lot of level headed. Well, I mean, you don't

like to hear that. But I'm fishing for a couple. No, I'm just, I'm just relating to

use it because we do emails on the show. Yeah. But usually when they have questions. And

so I don't even tell you all the ones that just say, hey, I just wanted to let the show

out.

Well, why not? Well, because you react this round. Okay. It's called me the bouquets. Joining

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Don't be frightened by the word ecosystem, please, though, because it's values based. And

it's designed influence corporations and the economy for the benefit of communities across

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both Biden and Trump. I guess he just served under Biden for a little bit. Is that right?

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