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I'm your host, I'm your host, Adam Todd Brown, joining me as co-host this week. Ooh, my favorite co-host of all, no co-hosts. But I do have a couple of fantastic guests joining me this week. Former CIA agents, current hosts of the Mission Implausible podcast, Jerry O'Shea and John Seifer. How's it going? Good. Good. I want to start by correcting you and arguing

me. Let's get this Donnie Brooke going. I'm into it. We are CIA officers. Oh, okay. Not agents, yes.

We can explain that later.

And, of course, you've got us instead of interesting guests, but yes.

Yeah, FBI agents are the people who work at the FBI.

The people who work at the CIA are officers.

And then the spies that we might run overseas,

we call agents.

Oh, okay. That makes sense. So this will be a pretty lighthearted episode, just a sort of Q&A thing.

I have some questions. We put some questions out to our rowdy audience, and they came back with some stuff. I guess I'll just

sort of trade off. I'll just direct one question to Jerry, then a question to John. Then you don't

have to fight over who. No, we like to fight over. We like to fight. Yeah, yeah. Before we get started,

John, you must hear this all the time, but John Seifer is the perfect name for someone working in intelligence.

I suppose so. I don't like it. Doesn't it mean Sefer means zero? That's sort of like a, I don't know.

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