On April 9, 1987, at around 7 p.m., a man rushed into a grocery store looking for his girlfriend.

He was frantic, and he was coming to tell her that something truly awful had happened.

Her baby was unconscious and being driven to the hospital in an ambulance.

Baby Jacob Landine would die while in surgery in the early morning hours of April 10, 1987.

Was it a terrible accident, or was Jacob a victim of abuse?

I'm Eric Carter-Londine.

And I'm Charlie Worrell.

And this is Crime Lines and Consequences.

Thank you. consequences. And today we get personal, Charlie. You're getting personal. Well, I think our audience has heard us reference your role as a family advocate for your own brother's case and for other cases as well. And I'm not sure that everyone really understands what that means.

Not so much what it means like your story and your brother's story, but what that means to advocate.

Yeah, I don't think anybody knows what it means until you're forced to do it.

And even then, there really isn't a handbook or a guidebook on how to do it.

So you're kind of left to your own devices.

I think we will give a little bit of a recap in the case just for people that may have not heard it yet.

We have a lot of ground to cover things people haven't heard before.

Yeah, a lot.

And I'm just going to trigger warn everybody.

So we are talking about child abuse.

We are talking about the death of an infant.

So if that's something that you emotionally cannot handle, we understand, take care of yourself.

But share the episode if you're leaving so that we can get more ears on Jacob's story.

All right. So Charlie, I think I'm going to ask you to help guide me through this conversation because I am extremely angry and I tend to bounce all over the place whenever I'm in that frame of mind.

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