Prescription weight loss injections are all over the news right now.

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They seem to work by removing hunger, but what does that really mean?

This episode of Gastropod, we talked to people who've taken these drugs and felt their hunger suddenly disappear.

We also talk to the researchers who are figuring out the science of hunger and fullness,

how it works and how it shapes our lives, plus why each of us experiences it so differently.

Come with us behind the headlines to hear what these drugs can tell us about the feelings that book end each and every meal.

Listen to Gastropod wherever you get your podcasts.

Welcome to Switched on Pop. I'm a musicologist, Nate Sloan,

and with Charlie Harding out on Parental Leave, we are bringing in some of our favorite musical thinkers on to the show to cover his absence.

And today I am so excited to be joined by one of my favorite people in the world of music.

It's Estelle Caswell. Estelle, welcome to the show.

Thanks for having me, I really appreciate being on.

Well, you are the, I can say this now, you're the Emmy-winning producer, writer, creator of the Vox series, Earwarm, that you can find on YouTube.

It is annoyingly I'm watching your videos and I'm like, I wish I had done that. That's really good.

It's the greatest form of flattery, for sure.

And you know, we're actually going to dig a little deeper into one of your recent episodes.

What subject are we discussing today, Estelle?

Today we are talking about probably my very, well now very public obsession, but was for a very long time secret obsession of any moment in a song where a guy just like hits really high notes.

Is there an artist right now that you feel like really exemplifies this style of high male singing?

Yeah, well, I kind of want to start this conversation off by admitting something, which is that I'm a poother.

If you know what a poother is, we're friends, do you know?

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