Before Sophie Williams started baking bread for a living, she'd never worked in a bakery.

So the first year that I was baking, I just like consistently made pretty horrible bread.

And I didn't have another job.

And so I sold it, which was an excellent lesson in humility and in failing repeatedly in like really public ways.

Which I think is really valuable and was not something

that I had learned in school.

Public humiliation.

Public humiliation, just like repeated, like having to go into the world because I was

financially dependent on this absurd business that I had started and like bring my ugly bread

and ask people to buy it.

The bread got better, so did the business.

And today, Sophie owns Raven Bakery in Bellingham, Washington.

So what is people's reaction when you tell them you're a baker?

Almost universally positive.

Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like it's like a fairly romantic profession in a lot of people's minds.

Yeah. Why is that? Because I had the same sense about it. I think part of it is how fundamental bread is.

Bread is the thing that we bring to the table. It's the thing that we share with other people. That is the root of the word companion. There's so many Latin

roots of words that are based in pan and bread. You just blew my mind. I had never made that link,

but like the pan and companion is bread. Yeah, with bread. Oh my God. Your friend is someone who you

break bread with.

I'm Dan Heath, and this is what it's like to be.

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