A 25 for 25 Double Feature: Dean Jelani Cobb on the Future of J-School. Plus, Spencer Hall on “Weird Internet.”

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🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 106 minutes

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Hello, media consumers! Bryan and Joel preview today’s double-feature episode (0:45), before Joel is joined by Columbia Journalism School dean Jelani Cobb to discuss the future of journalism education (7:44). Then, Bryan and Joel have a quick interview postgame (47:42) before introducing Joel’s conversation with writer Spencer Hall on how his remarkable career has intersected with the “weird internet” (59:07). Hosts: Bryan Curtis and Joel AndersonGuests: Jelani Cobb and Spencer HallProducer: Kyle Crichton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is Bill Simmons, and I want to tell you about my movie podcast, The Rewatchables.
0:03.8	We're each week, I'm joined by Ringer movie lovers, Chris Ryan, Sean Van Van Lathen, Kyle Brandt, Mali Rubin. We have a whole bunch of people on. We talk about movies. We can't stop rewatching. And now you can watch us cover these movies on video in the Spotify app. We have covered over 350 movies
0:21.4	including Heat, Goodfellas,
0:22.8	Boogie Nights, Pulp Fiction.
0:24.3	We have some real heavy hitters
0:25.5	coming up here in 2025.
0:27.2	Make sure to follow us on Spotify
0:28.9	where you can watch
0:30.3	every new episode right now.
0:33.4	Just head to the rewatchables on Spotify,
0:35.7	now on video.
0:45.5	Music Just head to the rewatchables on Spotify, now on video. Hello, media consumers.
0:47.7	Welcome to a special episode of the Press Boxes' 25 for 25 series. Brian Curtis,
0:54.7	Joel Anderson,
0:55.6	and the very best producer
0:57.1	in the world,
0:57.6	Kyle Crichton.
0:59.0	Joel,
0:59.4	we got a 25 for 25 double header today.
1:03.6	And I think we can describe it like this.
1:06.3	How do you learn the journalism business?
1:10.0	And how do you practice the craft?
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