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Public Health On Call

998 - Marion Nestle on the New Dietary Guidelines

Public Health On Call

The Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health

News, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.6 • 644 Ratings

🗓️ 20 January 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

About this episode:

Renowned nutritionist Marion Nestle likes the federal recommendation to reduce ultra-processed foods and its emphasis on healthy school meals. But there are other things she finds muddled, contradictory, and incomplete about the nation's new dietary guidelines. In this episode: Nestle talks protein, whole grains, and expanding access to healthy foods.

Guests:

Marion Nestle, PhD, MPH, is emeritus faculty at New York University. She is the author of the Food Politics blog and the book "What To Eat Now: The Indispensable Guide to Good Food, How to Find It, and Why It Matters".

Host:

Dr. Josh Sharfstein is distinguished professor of the practice in Health Policy and Management, a pediatrician, and former secretary of Maryland's Health Department.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Public Health On Call, a podcast from the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health,

0:05.9

where we bring evidence, experience, and perspective to make sense of today's leading health challenges.

0:16.3

If you have questions or ideas for us, please send an email to public health question at jhh.edu.

0:23.8

That's public health question at jhhu.edu for future podcast episodes.

0:31.1

Hey listeners, it's Lindsay Smith-Rogers.

0:33.6

Today, the federal government's new dietary guidelines.

0:37.5

Marian Nussle is a nutritionist,

0:39.4

Merida's faculty member at New York University,

0:41.8

and the author of the book What to Eat Now

0:44.1

and the blog, Food Politics.com.

0:46.9

She joins Dr. Josh Sharfstein to offer her public health perspective

0:50.2

on the changes to the federal government's recommendations

0:52.7

on what to eat. Let's listen.

0:56.0

Marian Nessel, welcome back to public health on call. How are you doing today?

1:00.3

I'm surviving. It's been an interesting week.

1:05.1

I imagine it's been a busy week for you. Very busy. So the new dietary guidelines came out and I'm sure that has

1:13.7

crowded your email inbox and we really appreciate a few moments of your time to tell us what you

1:19.3

think. What was your first thought when they hit your inbox? That they were very difficult to

1:26.5

understand because the materials that I saw

1:30.4

were what reporters were sending me,

1:33.3

what they were getting.

1:34.8

And they turned out not to be the actual guidelines

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